Finn

He said the noise their son Finn made when he was told of his mother's death would stay with him forever.

“We always have difficult negotiations with these companies. ... We’ve gotten very close to going on strike many times, ending or reaching a deal minutes or hours before a deadline — or after,” Finn said.

"There is an authenticity with the Finns," says Jack Parker, a Helsinki-based founder originally from Newcastle upon Tyne, who runs a healthcare innovation start-up.

Travis got to meet Finn virtually Wednesday when the brothers were a few minutes into their podcast.

The duty of Finns to defend their country is enshrined in the Finnish constitution, and there is mandatory military service for men.